Archive for the ‘Transportation’ Category

DPRK Merchants (1)* vs. Somali Pirates (1)

Tuesday, March 16th, 2010

UPDATE: Well I am very surprised. Someone (probably a Singaporean) paid the ransom for the North Korean crew. According to the AFP:

Somali pirates on Tuesday freed a chemical tanker with 28 North Korean sailors on board after receiving 3.5 million dollars in ransom, a maritime official said.

The Virgin Islands-owned, Singapore-operated MV Theresa VIII was hijacked on November 16 some 180 nautical miles northwest of the Seychelles.

“It was freed today. The crew is safe,” said Andrew Mwangura, the head of the East African Seafarers Assistance Programme.

Mwangura said a 3.5 million-dollar ransom was paid to free the tanker.

The European Union naval force off the Somali coast confirmed the payment of a ransom.

“An unknown ransom was exchanged on the morning of 16 March and the ship is now underway and heading out to sea,” the EU NAVFOR said in a statement.

“No immediate assistance has been requested but EU NAVFOR will continue to monitor the situation,” it added.

The ship had been moved between the pirates’ stronghold coastal villages of Garaad and Harardhere in northern Somalia.

Its captain, whose nationality was not revealed, died a few days after the hijacking in which the pirates opened fire.

The MV Theresa VIII was headed to the Kenyan port town of Mombasa, its initial destination, Mwangura said.

The Somali pirates, who raked in at least 60 million dollars in ransom money last year, currently hold at least six ships and around 120 seamen hostage.

There is also a DPRK flagged vessel that was hijaked by Somali pirates in February.  As best I can tell, this vessel is still being held for ransom.

ORIGINAL POST: In October 2007 the US Navy assisted some North Korean merchants in their victory over Somali pirates.  In a grudge match this week, however, the North Koreans succumbed to the new Somali pirate team.  The score is now 1-1.

According to the BBC:

A chemical tanker with a crew of 28 North Koreans has been hijacked by pirates in waters off Somalia, the EU’s naval force (Navfor) says.

The MV Theresa VIII, a Singaporean-operated tanker, was taken on Monday in the south Somali Basin, 180 nautical miles north-west of the Seychelles.

It had been heading for Mombasa, Kenya, but was diverted north, Navfor said.

The MV Theresa VIII, the owner of which is based in the Virgin Islands, is a tanker of 22,294 deadweight tonnes, said Navfor, the EU naval force operating in the region to protect shipping.

Some thoughts:

1. Globalization in action: The ship is owned by someone in the Virgin Islands, managed by a Singaporean company, operated by a North Korean crew, and taken hostage by Somali pirates.

2. As sad as it sounds, hiring North Korean crews might be an effective anti-piracy strategy.  Here is why: Pirates hold (a) the ship, (b) the cargo, and (c) the crew as hostages to be traded for ransom. Using simple expected value calculations, this means that the rational pirate will pillage if:  [P(probability of success)] x [$(a+b+c)] > the next best opportunity to earn income.  This ignores risk tolerance, but you get the idea. If you lower the $ value of the payload by hiring workers who will not earn a ransom, then the expected value of the captured ship falls and fewer pirates will attack.  If this plays out in a way that the Somalis lose money on North Korean crews (because who is going to pay their ransom), we should expect to see more shipping companies hiring North Korean crews and painting North Korean flags on their vessels! Old ships + North Korean crew + agricultural goods = waste of time for pirates.

*  win with assistance from the US Navy.

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China border tourism to North Korea set to rise, South Korean airlines may be involved

Thursday, March 11th, 2010

By Michael Rank

Chinese officials have announced plans to increase the number of Chinese tourists visiting North Korea from the border region of Yanbian 延边 and are hoping to involve South Korean airlines and to include Vladivostok on the itinerary, a Chinese website reports.

The head of the Yanbian tourism bureau, Jin Chengwen 金成文 (Kim Seong-mun), was quoted as saying they were investigating plans for tours starting in the main city in the region, Hunchun 珲春, which would take in the Russian Pacific port of Vladivostok and Baekdusan 백두산, a mountain on the Sino-Korean border that is the purported birthplace of leader Kim Jong-il, as well as tours from the North Korean port of Rajin 라진 to Pyongyang and Panmunjom.

He said he hoped Korean Air and other South Korean and Chinese airlines would become involved, but gave no details. It was hoped that Chinese tourists would not need passports to visit North Korea, he added.

Another Yanbian tourism official said there were already tours from the border town of Sanhe 三合 to the industrial city of Chongjin 청진 and Baekdusan and to Samji lake (Samjiyeon 삼지옌), a scenic spot near Baekdusan, and Pyongyang, and they were hoping to add a Rajin-Pyongyang-Panmunjom tour. “North Korea is hoping more Chinese tourists will come and tour their country,” he added.

The report said the tourism plans were connected to an agreement announced this month under which China gained the use of a pier at the port of Rajin 라진 for 10 years to help the development of the border region and give Jilin province access to the Pacific.

As NKEW reported last year, Chinese officials are also talking about cruises from Hunchun to the North Korean port of Raseon 라선 (Rasŏn/Naseon/Nasŏn) (which somewhat confusingly seems to be the same as Rajin), Sokcho 속초 in South Korea, just south of the DMZ, and Vladivostok.

North Korea is also hoping to attract tourists from southern China, and has cast its eye on Guangdong province as well as Shanghai.

Also see “China to Offer Railway Tours to N.Korea” in the Choson Ilbo:

A new train service is being offered in China for tours to North Korea. One news website based in China’s Zhejiang Province reported on Wednesday that a large travel agency in the region will offer railway trips from Hangzhou to Sinuiju from April 20.

The trains have 14 sleeper carriages and can transport 800 passengers. They pass Beidahu in Hebei Province and Dandong, Liaoning Province before arriving in Sinuiju, where Chinese passengers will transfer to a North Korean train and embark on an 11-day tour that includes stops in the border truce village of Panmunjom, Mt. Myohyang and the childhood home of former North Korean leader Kim Il-sung. The tours will cost 5,280 yuan for first-class compartments and 4,680 yuan for regular ones.

“Until now, people in Zhejiang Province visited North Korea by flying from Hangzhou either to Beijing or Shenyang and transferring to trains,” said a spokesman for the tour agency. “But the train tours are both cheaper than existing options and offer more sightseeing stops including Beidahu and Dandong, so more than 300 people have signed up already.” China halted tours to North Korea in February of 2006 but decided to start them again this year.

Chinese tourists will not be able to bring mobile phones into North Korea and will also be banned from carrying cameras with zoom lenses and face restrictions on traveling alone in the communist country.

Finally, more information on Chinese tourism has been published in the Donga Ilbo:

Tours of North Korea for Chinese tourists resuming next month have started to be sold in Beijing and Guangdong province, the China Daily said yesterday.

Five to six licensed tour agencies are recruiting Chinese tourists for travel in North Korea in mid-April. As many as 200 people from Beijing alone will visit next month, the daily said.

A few tour packages are up for grabs. A Chinese state-run travel agency is offering a six-day package and a three-day package. For both, tourists will travel by plane but must do so via Hangzhou, Beijing, the North Korean capital of Pyongyang, and Shenyang, so two full days will be needed to get to and from North Korea.

The three-day package is a brief visit to Pyongyang and costs 3,380 yuan (495 U.S. dollars). The six-day tour costing 6,280 yuan (920 U.S. dollars) covers many parts of North Korea. Tourists will visit the day after their departure Mansudae Grand Monument and Chollima Statue in Pyongyang. From the third day, they will go to Panmunjom in Kaesong, beaches in Wonsan, Mount Kumgang, and then back to Pyongyang.

The six-day package could also include a tour to Mount Myohyang. Tourists can also choose to attend a performance celebrating the birthday of North Korea’s late leader Kim Il Sung April 15.

The tourists will also receive a long list of “don’ts.” They will be banned from making noise, mimicking Kim’s postures in front of his statue, and commenting on North Korea’s leaders, politics, military and economy.

Another big no-no is the taking of photos on the trip from Shinuiju to Pyongyang, streets and markets, and images conveying a negative impression of the communist country.

Tourists also must call South Korea “South Korea” instead of the Republic of Korea. They will also be required to leave at immigration offices mobile phones, products with the South Korean or U.S. flag and other symbols of these nations on them, and magazines with open covers upon entering North Korea.

The list also says few public phones are on North Korean streets, adding tourists can make phone calls only at hotels for 16 yuan (2.30 dollars) per minute.

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DPRK seeks foreign capital through Rajin Port Development

Wednesday, March 10th, 2010

Institute for Far Eastern Studies (IFES)
NK Brief No.10-03-11-1
3/11/2010

North Korea is actively looking into further development of Rajin Port by extending China’s lease on port facilities for another decade, and granting Russia 50-year rights to Rajin port facilities, as well. Li Longxi, a deputy of the National People’s Congress and head of Jilin Province’s Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture, revealed to a Yonhap News reporter in Beijing on March 8, “The North gave Russia the right to use Pier 3 for 50 years, and is actively looking into extending the right to use Pier 1 granted to China in 2008 for another 10 years.”

Rajin Port has five piers, with Pier 3 being larger than Pier 1. The rights to Pier 1 were granted to the Changli Group, which specializes in the manufacture of environmental materials in Dalian. 10-year use and development rights had already been granted to this company. Deputy Li explained, “China gained rights to Pier 1 in 2008, and is now in negotiations with North Korea over extending those rights for 10 years.” Therefore, if this agreement is reached, China will have exclusive rights to the pier until 2028.

Li added, “Currently, China is in the process of constructing the facilities necessary to use the pier, and will begin to move goods through the port when construction is complete.” It appears China has invested tens of millions of Yuan into this project. Li also pointed out that by being able to use Rajin Port, Yanbian, currently lacking export avenues, will be able to transport Jilin Province’s abundant coal resources, not only through the Yellow Sea to Shanghai and other domestic cities, but to Japan and other countries in the Asia Pacific region.

On February 28, Sun Zhengcai, CCP Secretary of Jilin Province met with North Korean Kim Yong Il, head of the Korean Workers’ Party International Department, and introduced to him China’s ‘Greater Tumen Initiative’ development project. At the time, it was reported that Sun explained to Kim that Jilin provincial authorities had reached an agreement with North Korea for joint venture to construct a network of roads and basic infrastructure facilities. Jilin provincial and city officials, as well as Changchun city representatives, are involved in the project. China is focused on the Tumen river basin and Rajin Port because of their strategically valuable economic role in developing the country’s straggling northeast region.

Russia is also eyeing Rajin Port, because if the port is developed, it could serve as an outlet to export Sakhalin and Siberian crude oil and natural gas to neighboring countries. In July of last year, Russia and North Korea reached an agreement to repair the rail connection between Rajin and Hasan and to improve Rajin Port facilities, investing 1.4 billion Euros. Japanese newspaper Sankei Sinbun quoted a source within North Korea as reporting that Jang Song Thaek, Party administrative chief and brother-in-law of Kim Jong Il, had recently travelled to Rasun (Rajin + Sunbong) and declared that the area would be fully developed within the next 6 months.

The Korea Daepung International Group, serving as North Korea’s window to foreign capital, is said to have a plan to entice international investment in order to support the Tumen river development plan, and plans to develop Rasun Special City and Chongjin Port into key outlets for DPRK-PRC-Russian trade and commerce in Northeast Asia. However, the participation, and investment, of private-sector enterprises will likely depend on the success of the Rajin Port development.

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China leases Rason port for 10 years

Monday, March 8th, 2010

UPDATE:  According to Defense News:

Fears that China will establish a naval presence at a port facility at North Korea’s Rajin Port appear unfounded.

An agreement with a Chinese company to lease a pier at Rajin for 10 years was reported by the Chinese state-controlled Global Times on March 10.

The Chuangli Group, based at Dalian in China’s Liaoning province, invested $3.6 million in 2009 to rebuild Pier No. 1 and is constructing a 40,000-square-meter warehouse at the port. The leasing agreement has given way to suggestions China could be attempting to establish its first naval base with access to the Sea of Japan.

The North Korean Navy does use Rajin as a base for smaller vessels, such as mine warfare and patrol vessels, but for the time being, it appears economics are the primary motivation for the Chinese company’s presence there, said Bruce Bechtol, author of the book “Red Rogue: The Persistent Challenge of North Korea.”

“Chinese investment has increased a great deal in North Korea in the past five years,” he said. “It would not be a military port for the Chinese – as the North Koreans would be unlikely to ever allow such a thing.” He noted there are no Chinese military installations in North Korea.

The Rajin facility will give Chinese importers and exporters direct access to the Sea of Japan for the first time. “It is the country’s first access to the maritime space in its northeast since it was blocked over a century ago,” the Global Times reported.

China lost access to the Sea of Japan during the Qing Dynasty in the 19th century after signing treaties under duress from Japan and Russia.

Various media in Japan and South Korea have suggested the lease might give China an opportunity to place a naval base at Rajin, but Bruce Klingner of the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C., also downplayed the notion, saying North Korea’s negative attitudes toward China and a fear of excessive Chinese influence would negate any chance Beijing could establish a naval presence there.

Klingner also said he doubts North Korea would make a success out of the agreement. “Pyongyang’s aversion to implementing necessary economic reform and its ham-fisted treatment of investors suggests the new effort to turn Rajin into an investment hub will be as much a failure as the first attempt in the 1990s.”

ORIGINAL POST: According to the Choson Ilbo:

China has gained the use of a pier at North Korea’s Rajin Port for 10 years to help development of the bordering region and establish a logistics network there.

Lee Yong-hee, the governor of the Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture in China’s Jilin province, made the announcement to reporters after the opening of the People’s Congress at the Great Hall of People in Beijing on Sunday.

He was quoted by the semi-official China News on Monday as saying, “In order for Jilin Province to gain access to the East Sea, a private company in China in 2008 obtained the right to use Pier No. 1 at Rajin Port for 10 years. Infrastructure renovation is currently underway there.”

In an interview with Yonhap News on Monday, Lee said, “We’re considering extending the contract by another 10 years afterward.”

Jilin abuts the mouth of the Duman (Tumen) River in the southeast but its access to the East Sea is blocked by Russia and North Korea. “We hope that an international route to the East Sea will be opened via Rajin Port,” he added.

Lee did not specify which Chinese company obtained the right and which North Korean agency awarded the concession. The Chinese Foreign Ministry on Feb. 25 said business investment in the North Korea-China border area is a normal business deal and does not therefore run counter to UN sanctions against the North.

According to Yonhap:

South Korea is keeping a close watch over North Korea’s efforts to draw greater foreign investment to one of its ports, as the move might indicate Pyongyang is opening up to the outside world and signal its return to stalled international nuclear talks, officials said Tuesday.

The North has agreed to give a 50-year lease on its Rajin port to Russia, and the country is also in talks with a Chinese company on extending its 10-year lease by another decade, according to an official from China’s Jilian Province, currently in Beijing for the National People’s Congress.

The North’s opening of the port on its east coast has a significant meaning for China as it will give the latter a direct access to the Pacific, but it also means millions of dollars, at the minimum, in investment for the cash-strapped North.

Officials at Seoul’s foreign ministry said the North’s opening of its port or its economy was a positive sign, but that it was too early to determine whether the move will also have a positive effect on international efforts to bring North Korea back to the nuclear negotiations.

“We are trying to confirm the reports, though they appear to be true because they were based on China’s official announcement,” an official said, asking not to be identified due to the sensitivity of the issue.

“We are trying to find out the exact details of the contracts (between North Korea and Russia and China),” the official added.

Additional information 

1. A previous report indcated that there were 250 Chinese companies registered in Rason.  The North Koreans reportedly closed out the insolvent and inoperable businesses. I do not know how many are there now. Read more here.

2. The Russian government recently built a Russian-gauge railway line from Kashan to Rason. Read more here.  It will be interesting to see if China upgrades roads and railways which could connect Rason to China.

3. Rason is sealed off by an electric fence. Read more here.

4. Many other stories about Rason here.

Read the full stories here:
China’s Jilin Wins Use of N.Korean Sea Port
Choson Ilbo
3/9/2010

Seoul closely watching N. Korea’s opening of port to China: officials
Yonhap
Byun Duk-kun
3/9/2010

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Border crossing more expensie

Friday, February 19th, 2010

According to the Daily NK:

Since the redenomination on November 30 last year, the cost of crossing the Tumen River has risen as high as 10,000 Yuan on the back of tighter border regulations.

A source from North Hamkyung Province told the Daily NK on Thursday, “Since border security was strengthened in February, it has cost at least 10,000 Yuan to cross the border into China.” This is equal to around 400,000 North Korean won at the black market exchange rate, or $1400.

In 2006, the cost of crossing the Tumen River around Musan and Onsung in North Hamkyung Province was just 500 Yuan.

The reason is because now there is an alliance of brokers monopolizing the crossing business, and a number of regulations designed to both circumscribe the ability of citizens to cross and limit the relationship between guard companies and local citizens.

In the distant past, if people wanted to cross the river, they approached guards and haggled over the price directly. However, now people have to rely on professional brokers who put them in contact with guards and guides in China. One pays a price to the broker, who shares it with North Korean border guards and Chinese guides respectively at a ratio of 4:3:3.

The North Korean authorities designated the period from February 5th until Kim Jong Il’s birthday on the 16th as a period of “special vigilance,” handing down special instructions to strengthen the border guard and regulations covering migration in border cities.

According to a Daily NK source, this measure is primarily intended to limit the ability of those suffering since the redenomination to smuggle or cross the border to make money in China, as well as to regulate citizens in advance of Kim Jong Il’s birthday, which is customary.

The source emphasized, “Since December last year, the number of citizens using human networks in China to make money has been increasing. Therefore, agents of the National Security Agency and the People’s Safety Agency have been watching those people closely.”

The source further explained, “Now, the authorities are forcing border guards to observe each other in order to track down those doing business with brokers and border crossers. In January, in Yusun-dong, Hoiryeong, one company commander was dismissed after a platoon commander informed on him for assisting border crossers.”

In the mid-2000s, along the border near settlements such as Namyang, Sambong, and Jongsung in North Hamkyung Province, the authorities set up nail boards and extra barbed wire along the Tumen River in order to inhibit defection. However, as these physical measures were not as effective as hoped, in 2006 the authorities took to switching guard posts between different guard companies without notice and awarding a prize, membership of the Party, to guards who caught people crossing the border. These measures were designed to break down connections between individual guards and the local populace

Therefore, the source added, “These days, no border guards are helping people cross the river, and the cost is soaring.”

Read the full story here:
Tight Rules Make Border Costs Soar
Daily NK
Lee Sung Jin
2/19/2010

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DPRK ships (2)* Vs. Somali Pirates (2)

Tuesday, February 9th, 2010

(* = assist from the US Navy)

According to UPI:

Pirates seized a North Korean-flagged cargo ship owned by Libya’s White Sea Shipping in the Gulf of Aden off Somalia and Yemen, an anti-piracy task force said.

The 4,800-ton MV Rim changed course and was headed for the Somali Basin Wednesday, the European Union Naval Force said, CNN reported. The task force said two U.S. Navy ships working with NATO had confirmed the incident.

There was no immediate confirmation how many crew members were aboard the vessel when it was taken.

This marks the 4th pirate attack involving a North Korean ship or crew off the coast of Somalia.  The US Navy has rescued two ships.  When Uncle Sam is not around this sort of thing happens.  If any North Korean crew were unfortuante enough to be involved in this case, they probably face a long wait in captivity.  I can’t think of anyone likely to pay their ransom.

Previous pirate posts below:

DPRK ships (2)* Vs. Somali Pirates (1)

DPRK Merchants (1)* vs. Somali Pirates (1)

Freed N. Korean vessel opens new window for U.S.-N. Korea ties

Hat tip to Josh.

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DPRK ships (2)* Vs. Somali Pirates (1)

Monday, January 25th, 2010

(* = assist from the US Navy)

DPRK sailors (or DPRK flagged ships) have come under attack from Somali pirates three times since October 2007. 

In the first attack, the DPRK ship overcame the pirates with the assistance of the US Navy. More here

In November 2009, a North Korean crew was taken hostage by Somali pirates. I still don’t know what happened to them, but I hope they were released safely. More here

This week Josh points out an AP story about a third attackon a Yemeni-owned, DPRK-flagged vessel:

The U.S. Navy says it overtook a suspected Somali pirate skiff that tried to attack a commercial ship in the Gulf of Aden.

A Navy statement issued Sunday says a security team aboard the merchant vessel Napht Al Yemen 1 repelled the Jan. 20 pirate attack without U.S. help.

The USS Porter stopped and boarded the pirate skiff later that day.

The commercial ship is Yemeni owned but sails under a North Korean flag.

The incident marked a rare example of the U.S. military aiding North Korea, a reclusive rogue nation.

Piracy is among the fastest ways to make money in Somalia, a nation plagued by war and no functioning government.

Somali pirates seized 47 vessels last year. They currently hold about 200 crew members hostage.

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Friday Fun Smörgåsbord

Thursday, January 21st, 2010

Item 1: Koryo Credit Development Bank. This bank is located in the Yangakdo Hotel and is accessible to foreign visitors.  Here are the marketing materials they provide to “encourage” foreigners to set up hard currency accounts: Folder (PDF), Inserts (PDF).

Item 2: DPRK Customs Form (PDF)

Item 3: The Ryugyong Hotel is looking more like a spaceship (Source here. Date: 12/2009)

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Too bad it will never take off

Item 4: DPRK Transportation. Last September I linked to a collection of vehicles manufactured in the DPRK.  See them here.  This month Kernbeisser posted a great collection of photos he has taken of vehicles on the DPRK’s roads.  Seem them here

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China to renew border rail link with N. Korea

Monday, January 18th, 2010

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According to Yonhap:

China will mend a rail link between one of its border cities and a North Korean port, a source familiar with North Korean affairs said Sunday, a move that indicates stronger economic ties between the two allies.

North Korea and the municipal government of the Chinese city of Tumen, which borders the North, have recently agreed to repair the railway linking the city with North Korea’s northeastern port of Chongjin, the source said.

Additional Information: 

1. Above I have posted Google Earth images of the China-DPRK border area and a simple map of the DPRK’s North Eastern railway system.

2. Long-time readers will remember that Russia recently installed Russian-gague railway track from the North Korean border to the city of Rason (Rajin-Songbon). It looks like both Russia and China get their own ports in the DPRK.

3. Chongjin is also home to both Russian and Chinese consulates

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EU implements further sanctions on DPRK

Monday, January 11th, 2010

The EU has issued a list of 12 DPRK officials who will be denied entry visas to member countries.  According to the Choson Ilbo:

The EU has imposed sanctions targeting North Korea’s top leadership over the country’s nuclear weapons development. Twelve officials were blacklisted, many of them thought to be leader Kim Jong-il’s closest advisers.

The list includes Vice Marshal Kim Yong-chun (74), the minister of the armed forces, as well as Jang Song-taek (64), the director of the North Korean Workers Party’s Administration Department who is Kim Jong-il’s brother-in-law. Six of 13 members of the powerful National Defense Committee were blacklisted.

At a session of the Environment Council in Brussels on Dec. 22, the EU approved new sanctions against North Korea, including an entry ban on individuals and goods. EU regulations are binding on the 27 member states and overrule individual national laws.

The four other blacklisted committee members are O Kuk-ryol, the deputy chairman of the National Defense Commission; Jon Pyong-ho, the secretary of the Central Committee and head of the Committee’s Military Supplies Industry Department; Paek Se-bong, the chairman of the Second Economic Committee of the Central Committee; and Ju Kyu-chang, the first deputy director of the Defense Industry Department. Also on the blacklist are Hyon Chol-hae, the deputy director of the General Political Department of the Armed Forces, and Pak Jae-gyong, the deputy director of the Logistics Bureau of the Armed Forces.

So Sang-guk, the chair of the Physics Department at Kim Il Sung University who laid the technical groundwork for the North’s nuclear development, and Pyon Yong-rip, the president of the State Academy of Sciences, were also blacklisted.

The legal statement issued by the EU can be found here on page 16. The complete list of officials affected by the travel ban are listed here on page 3The UN Security Council sanctioned five individuals in 2009.

The EU also maintained its ban on Air Koryo.  According to Yonhap (h/t The Marmot):

Air Koryo, North Korea’s air carrier, has been banned from offering flight services to Europe for a fifth year after having failed to meet international safety requirements, U.S. international broadcaster Radio Free Asia (RFA) said Saturday.

The North Korean carrier has been involved in the list of carriers prohibiting from flying to the 27 members of European Union that was released this year, RFA said.

Air Koryo reportedly has a fleet of about 20 planes made between the 1960s and 1970s in the Soviet Union.

UPDATE: Here are the EU regulations adopted on Dec 22, 2009. Thanks to Mike.

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